IR Support for Revox devices (B250, B215, B226 etc.) - works in Logitech Harmony Elite

Dear all – since a couple of weeks I’m trying to find out, if the Remote Unfolded Circle 3 would be capable learning IR codes from Revox devices (late 90ies) like Amplifier B250, CD Player B226, Tape Recorder B215. → background is I would like to move from Logitech Harmony Elite to the new unfolded remote (and under Logitech, these IRs are working).

I was looking up and down several sites, forums etc. (including here) but somehow did not find out if actually this would work. I found the codes under remote central (Remote control is B208), and even do own the remote as well :blush:

I think to have understood, the Revox B208 remote uses an ITT IR protocol that is unmodulated (no 36-40 kHz carrier) but frankly spoken I do not really know what this means and/or if the Unfolded Circle 3 is capable learning these code.

I was hoping someone in this community successfully did integrate it or could guide me to kind of a how-to learn these IR codes, proven working? Then at least I could consider buying the new remote, before one day the Logitech device is dying or servers get cut off.

Thanks for all your support and feedback :blush:

Cannot say if it is a solution. Try to download codes from global cache IR DB

For complete set you need to register and to use these codes for the R3 the CSV file must be changed a bit.

Ralf

Keep in mind that even if you can import the codes the remote might not be able to send them due to the underlaying ir library. These are the supported protocols but I can’t find your mentioned ITT protocol in there: IRremoteESP8266/src/IRremoteESP8266.h at v2.8.5-ucd2.2 · unfoldedcircle/IRremoteESP8266 · GitHub
An alternative would be using a third-party ir blaster like the Broadlink RM4 Pro that can be integrated into the Remote. It even additionally supports 433MHz RF.

Thanks - just tried that, unfortunately “my” devices are not listed there.

Generally manufacturers don’t change IR libraries from one device generation to the next. So even if your model isn’t there but the previous generation is, it’s worth testing.

However, there is a second resource other than Global Cache for IR hex codes and that’s Remote Central. I would test the codes on this page ( RC: Infrared Hex Code Database: Revox Model List ) as it’s unlikely that your models would have different ones (I do note that the cassette player’s not there).

Thanks - yes, that could be a good source; Tape 1/2 and VCR 1/2 at least is listed there…….those code from “RC: Infrared Hex Code Database: Revox B208 Commands (Page ) would actually work with the Unfolded Remote Control 3?

Please read my previous post. You can actually import codes that may not be working. You would need to try this yourself with the device. If the protocol you mentioned is correct it’s not listed as supported so the chances are no very high it works.

@revox Just to clarify, do you already own a Remote 3? If yes, there have been some good recommendations. If not, it is hard to tell if the R3 works with Revox since I am not sure anyone has actually tested that combination.

Yes, create a blank IR device and then when you add the button you can paste the code into the command box (select Pronto not hex for the format). At the office so can’t give you screenshots but if you can’t figure it out can do so later.

Thanks for the feedback

no, I do not yet own the Remote 3, that’s why I thought to find out in forehand if the combination already has been installed successfully :grinning_face:

Thanks for your support

btw: I wil try now to get my hands on a device, will come back after that and report

Dear all - meanwhile I could get my hands on the Remote 3. Setup with dock 3 all successfully done. Did integrate my Samsung TV, that works flawless.
Unfortunately, the Revox devices seem to be unable to be integrated. I took three attemps by uploading the codes in pronto (2 times) and in hex directly from remotecentral (one time).
Nothing seems to work, no reaction at all from my Revox devices on their IR LEDs …..:sad_but_relieved_face:
I am kind of stuck……any help for the codes would be highly appreciated….

–> here an example of the pronto code file 1 I uploaded
key,format,code
B250_Volume_Up,PRONTO,0000 006d 0000 000e 0016 000b 0016 001a 0016 001a 0016 001a 0016 000b 0016 001a 0016 001a 0016 001a 0016 000b 0016 001a 0016 001a 0016 001a 0016 000b 0016 0380
–> here an example of the pronto code file 2 I uploaded
key,format,code
B250_Vol_Plus,PRONTO,0000 006d 0000 000e 0029 000b 000b 001a 000b 001a 000b 001a 001a 000b 000b 001a 000b 001a 000b 001a 001a 000b 000b 001a 000b 001a 000b 001a 001a 000b 000b 1207
–> here an example of the hex code file 1 I uploaded
key,format,code
Vol+,HEX,0000 006D 0000 000E 0000 0029 0000 000B 0000 000B 0000 001A 0000 001A 0000 001A 0000 000B 0000 001A 0000 001A 0000 001A 0000 000B 0000 001A 0000 0029 0000 1207

The last code is not a valid hex code that the remote accepts. It should have multiple semicolons and is shorter than a Pronto code.
If suspect it’s like I assumed above. The remote can’t decode the IR format. Are there any errors shown on the Dock display and does it work if you use the internal IR emitter? This needs to be enabled first under development/preview features. You should also try to connect the blaster to the dock (puck sized). The blaster is more powerfully than the Dock itself.

Thanks! yes I kind of realized the last code not working, the remote issues an error message.

The dock display did not generate any kind of error message, but I will keep once more a close eye on that –> I connected also both blasters to the dock.

Regarding the internal IR emitter, that is kind of news to me this is not activated “out of the box”, will look out for the seetings under development settings.

Thanks!

Thanks - how would the Broadlink RM4 Pro be “integrated” in my setup? The Revox B208 original remote does use ic saa 1250 itt protocol. Thanks

That’s explained in the integration readme: GitHub - JackJPowell/uc-intg-broadlink: Unfolded Circle Integration for Broadlink Devices

Thanks a lot - really helpful. Though I wonder if the Broadlink RM4 Pro actually can cope with the IR commands? One one hand, I couln’t find the “real” technical specifications for the Broadlink RM4 Pro (with the exeption of the Infrared frequency 38KHz) and for the Revox B250/Remote B208 II think to have understood, it uses kind of an ITT IR protocol that is unmodulated (no 36-40 kHz carrier) but frankly spoken I do not really know what this means……sorry for all the odd questions :slight_smile:

You could ask on Discord in the Broadlink thread if someone could look for your devices in the Broadlink Cloud database: Discord